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Post by nfcs2007 on Oct 22, 2010 3:11:06 GMT -5
That is one of my reason i make fleet league simlar to Sov NF cup , using the same Capital ship standard which work out pretty well and the result we got is we won the 1st place in NF cup.
Elnoble the ship that higher than bb4 just not gonna work out in FL ,maybe it will for a while but not for long term unless SDE put in some patches for it.
BB4 by far are the best option to go with , too bad 10 vs 10 will be my last event other wise I will defo stick with bb4 and cv 4 only , well thats just me.
I dont know what the other will make change to FL..... since i dont know nothing,
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Post by docryan13 on Oct 22, 2010 10:45:52 GMT -5
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Post by angus725 on Oct 22, 2010 12:49:44 GMT -5
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Post by saddlerocker on Oct 22, 2010 13:36:39 GMT -5
Correct me if im wrong, but sov is gone.
Will there even be an NF cup?
And if there is an NF Cup, all the rules are the same nothing changes except the ship you play in FL. Is playing one day a week in your BB4 gonna make much of a difference? Play your BB4 for a week before NF Cup and thats more practice then you would get all FL Season.
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Post by brazen on Oct 22, 2010 14:15:33 GMT -5
Correct me if im wrong, but sov is gone. Will there even be an NF cup? And if there is an NF Cup, all the rules are the same nothing changes except the ship you play in FL. Is playing one day a week in your BB4 gonna make much of a difference? Play your BB4 for a week before NF Cup and thats more practice then you would get all FL Season. poor argument TBH, i could say that you play your BB5/6 all week and the FL is only one match so whats the problem with keeping the satus quo. If it aint broke, dont fix it
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Post by nfcs2007 on Oct 22, 2010 14:30:12 GMT -5
NF cup will indeed happen even sov is not here, SDE love to create such an event for player to interact with other player from around the world .
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Post by saddlerocker on Oct 22, 2010 14:31:35 GMT -5
LOL a vote in the fleet leaders section would be totally useless. A total of about 10 votes? Basically whatever the fleet leader wants only?
You dont decide a president by asking congress only to vote.
And BB4/CV is not how its always been. It was BB3/CV3, and that was considered the most balanced. BB4/CV4 was considered unbalanced due to the AA and range of the axis ships.
listen if its BB4 then you have 2 useless ships (Vangaurd and Richeliu) If its BB5 then the H44 and the Alsace are at a slighter disadvanage.
I would rather use the alsace OR the H44 in a BB5 battle over a Richeliu in a BB4 battle.
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Post by rankori on Oct 22, 2010 14:48:17 GMT -5
Correct me if im wrong, but sov is gone. Will there even be an NF cup? And if there is an NF Cup, all the rules are the same nothing changes except the ship you play in FL. Is playing one day a week in your BB4 gonna make much of a difference? Play your BB4 for a week before NF Cup and thats more practice then you would get all FL Season. Get with GM's to find out. and lets see who we might get to replace him. Cough "Doc & Muggsy"
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Post by mugsybugsy on Oct 22, 2010 14:49:56 GMT -5
lol.
Heres my 2 cents.
As it stands now Richelieu is completely useless in FL and Yamato is very rarely used at all.
That being said, I believe if we change FL to incorporate BB5s there will be a greater variety of BBs used, rather than the usual US, UK, and KM.
Some claim that H44 and alsace will never be used because of balance issues. Personally I think that is a load of crap, I expect to see many H44 and Alsace playing in FL.
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Post by steel on Oct 22, 2010 14:50:32 GMT -5
saddle i dont know were you got the vangaurd getting shafted in FL now, but they are definitely not the worst BB4's.
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Post by docryan13 on Oct 22, 2010 14:56:54 GMT -5
Let's use ONLY CV's in FL After-all, they are the best ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by outcast5 on Oct 22, 2010 15:50:53 GMT -5
LOL a vote in the fleet leaders section would be totally useless. A total of about 10 votes? Basically whatever the fleet leader wants only? You dont decide a president by asking congress only to vote. You're right, it's much more accurate to have an open poll where someone can come on the forums and create as many accounts as they want to vote since this is open to the public. I didn't say only have the fleet leaders decide what is right. I said have the fleets poll their own members and then have the fleet leader submit his vote into the official poll based on what the majority of his/her fleet voted. You'd have to be pretty dense to not understand the mechanics of that.
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Post by rankori on Oct 22, 2010 15:54:30 GMT -5
lol. Heres my 2 cents. As it stands now Richelieu is completely useless in FL and Yamato is very rarely used at all. That being said, I believe if we change FL to incorporate BB5s there will be a greater variety of BBs used, rather than the usual US, UK, and KM. Some claim that H44 and alsace will never be used because of balance issues. Personally I think that is a load of crap, I expect to see many H44 and Alsace playing in FL. getting the ability to use lower tiers, with the BB5's and CV5's if the need arises is also a good thing.
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Post by docryan13 on Oct 22, 2010 15:58:44 GMT -5
You're right, it's much more accurate to have an open poll where someone can come on the forums and create as many accounts as they want to vote since this is open to the public. Mmmm....cept for the fact that we can see who votes? And if such a thing happened, other measures would be taken? Besides that, the rest of that quote makes sense.
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Post by brazen on Oct 22, 2010 16:10:43 GMT -5
lol. Heres my 2 cents. As it stands now Richelieu is completely useless in FL and Yamato is very rarely used at all. That being said, I believe if we change FL to incorporate BB5s there will be a greater variety of BBs used, rather than the usual US, UK, and KM. Some claim that H44 and Alsace will never be used because of balance issues. Personally I think that is a load of crap, I expect to see many H44 and Alsace playing in FL. Vets used the Yammy in most of our games this season, usually abily played by Angus to great effect, also players like Mckx can dominate games in a Yammy if allowed too. Vanguard is more than good enough to play in FL if handled well (Lordsaxon being in particular a fine Vanny player), it was the dominant BB4 in the previous 2 FL's and is a more than decent line fighter in the coming league. So in reality your swapping 1 ship in the in the BB4 tier that no one will use for IMO 2 in the BB5 tier that will not be used. Your argument is self defeating. Saddlerocker the above quote shows a complete lack of respect to some of the most experienced and competent members of the Bismarck community, I would argue that fleet leaders and XOs are the people who are best placed to make a decision like this because they are the ones organizing their fleets participation, this discussion should have been posted inthe Fleet leaders are 1st, this open public vote is open to abuse by fleet block voting and by players who may not even be participating in the coming competition. Each fleet has 1 CO and 2 XOs able to vote, this will give a cross section of at least 30 people to make this decision. Making it a fair representation of the participating fleets. In my opinion and this is strictly mine and nothing to do with Vets or it's leadership, is that you are pushing too hard for a change that only 1 or 2 fleets seem to really want, it's almost seems like your personal point of view and you are trying to force upon a fairly unwilling group of fleet leaders.
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